Banning the EDL March in Tower Hamlets Sends Out Completely the Wrong Message

Banning the EDL March in Tower Hamlets Sends Out Completely the Wrong Message

Demonstration on 3rd September to go ahead, but march banned by the Home Secretary

On Saturday, London will host one of biggest carnivals outside of Rio de Janeiro. For three days, the streets of Notting Hill will be awash with people, all relishing the sights and sounds and hoping for at least a little of that famous British sunshine.

Unfortunately, the carnival is also a hotbed of criminal activity. Every year, drug gangs, thieves and warring gangs use the festivities as cover for their nefarious activities, and in past years there have been instances where the police have struggled to control hostile crowds.

In 1976, rioting broke out and 100 police officers were hospitalised. There were 66 arrests.

In 2006, there were 391 recorded crimes and 214 arrests made.

In 2007, 206 people were arrested, two people were shot, there were an undetermined number of stabbing victims, and a total of 336 crimes reported.

In 2008, there were running battles with the police and the police made 330 arrests. 21 dangerous dogs were also seized.

In 2010, the police bill topped a whopping £6 million, and two people were stabbed during the festival. That year, 235 people were arrested, four for gun crime. 53 arrests were made by British Transport police alone.

So far this year, there have already been two petrol bombs launched at passing police vehicles, and 35 people have been arrested for inciting people to riot on the day of the carnival.

Every year there are serious incidents, some of which are reported by the media, and many that go unrecorded. Every year there is unshackled anti-social behaviour which, in ordinary circumstances, would not be tolerated by the police. Perhaps it’s the scale of the event, or just the party atmosphere, but the police do turn a blind eye to much of this criminal activity.

This year, 10,000 officers will be deployed to police the event – the largest number ever. That is only a third less than the number of officers that were brought in to (gradually) restore order to the streets during the recent riots and looting. With such widespread criminality still only a very recent memory, the police are clearly concerned that there could be similar outbreaks of criminal damage and violence.

Already the police have been making pre-emptive arrests ahead of the event, and are expected to make many more. They make similar efforts every year, but this time the police are also thought to be making a concerted effort to clamp down on people using social media to incite trouble. Already there are reports of anarchists and radical activists organising public gatherings, and we understand that individual officers are becoming more and more anxious about the possibility of organised criminals hijacking the event.

Odd then, that it is the EDL march in Tower Hamlets on the following weekend that Theresa May, the Home Secretary, has decided to ban. How many EDL supporters have been arrested for any kind of incitement? None, of course.

We’re certainly not saying that it is the Notting Hill carnival that should be banned or face any kind of harsh restrictions on its attractions: the carnival brings joy to thousands of people, and attracts tourists from around the world. But placing a ban on the EDL march gives out completely the wrong message. It suggests that the government is far happier restricting our democratic right to peaceful protest than it would be to make sensible demands of the festival organisations that would help to minimise the number of officers required to police the event.

When there is a very real risk of rioting, widespread criminal damage and other lawlessness, the government has make clear that it will spend a vast amount of public money on the necessary police presence, but place no restrictions on the event. There is far less of a risk of there being any disorder at the EDL demonstration on 3rd September, and yet we learn that restrictions will still be imposed. We will be allowed our demonstration, but there will be no march. Why the double-standard?

It is true to say that, although most EDL marches have been entirely peaceful, there have been problems in the past. But that was before we recruited a dedicated stewarding team, and before the police began to realise that the majority of trouble at demonstrations originates with the UAF. This is an organisation that follows us up and down the country inciting loosely organised Muslim gangs, such as the so-called Muslim Defence League, to violence. We’ve grown used to there being a very clear pattern: no UAF, no trouble.

Nowadays, the anti-extremism aims of our organisation are clear, and there is no reason to think that an EDL demonstration would contain any dangerous elements or that our presence would provoke more than the usual shrill, misinformed condemnation that we are used to from members of the far-Left.

But there’s another reason why banning our march sends out the wrong message. It suggests that it is the EDL, and not the extremism that we demonstrate about, which needs to be kept in check. The Home Secretary is inadvertently aiding radical Muslims, the far Left, and any other groups who wish for our criticism of radical Islam to be delegitimised. She is inadvertently telling the people of Britain that their concerns about the spread of radical Islam do not need to be treated with the respect they deserve, and that criticism of radical Islam can and should be censored. If nothing else, that sounds exactly like the arguments used by radical Muslims themselves.

Banning the EDL march will only serve to enhance radical Islam’s propaganda. If the government demonises and persecutes critics of radical Islam, then the radicals will be encouraged. They will see this as a strong sign that Britain is a country where their hateful ideology can grow, whilst at the same time actually being protected by the state.

We would have hoped that Theresa May would have realised this by now.

If this was the first time that she had banned one our marches, and if it were out of genuine concern for the safety of shop owners or local residents, then her decision could be understood, or even applauded. But, of course, it’s not. Our recent march in Telford, for example, was banned for no reason other than that the government was being petitioned by Muslim advocacy organisations. Why do they want to suppress criticism of radical Islam? Why do they want to target an organisation that, unlike some others, does make great efforts to distinguish between ideology and individuals, and between radical Muslims and ordinary, decent Muslims? Why do they want to misrepresent our aims and call us ‘Islamophobes’?

We believe that the decision to petition for a ban says more about our critics than it does the EDL.

Not surprisingly, the demonstration in Telford passed entirely peacefully. This is typical. When we have marched there is very rarely any violence, very few arrests (only a few for minor public order offences), and no criminal damage. Much of the time we are in fact the victims. If it’s not threats, incitement and purposeful misrepresentation by the UAF, it’s our leader receiving death threats from Muslim gangs (which, at our Luton demonstration, the police took seriously enough to issue Osman warnings).

We do not attack mosques, we do not attack businesses, and we do not attack people. Not only because we have a moral objection to this kind of mindless criminality, but because we know that any such action would be counterproductive to our main aim: protesting the government’s woefully inadequate approach to tackling the threat posed by radical Islam.

It’s time our government abandoned the double-standards and began to recognise what effect discrediting legitimate criticism of radical Islam could have. It might prevent them from having to deal with difficult questions for a few years, but it will allow radical Islam to become even more deeply engrained in this country.

And that’s something that’s certainly worth protesting about.

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27 comments

  1. joy52

    Great article–really on point. As there are more and more demos, sooner or later marches will happen. (maybe after the workout they may have at the carnival, the police will need the weekend off for yours and won’t have the numbers to deal with the UAF at a march) At some point in the Home Secretary’s offices and meetings, somebody is going to start stating the obvious–who is really causing the problem and what the majority is thinking. Their real problem is the criminal behavior which the UAF et al commits when the EDL peacefully demos/marches. All successful peaceful movements have won by letting the wrongful parties act up on their own and prove the point. The government will deny it for awhile before they admit it and deal with it. Even among the left, when it hits home as it is now doing, people don’t want the changes to their way of life. People know what rings true. That’s why the EDL was founded.

  2. lionsingh

    It’s time our government abandoned the double-standards and began to recognise what effect discrediting legitimate criticism of radical Islam could have. It might prevent them from having to deal with difficult questions for a few years, but it will allow radical Islam to become even more deeply engrained in this country.

    And that’s something that’s certainly worth protesting about.

    couldnt agree more. Surely a static demonstration would be more problematic than allowing a peaceful march !!!

  3. susan pryce

    Let’s be honest and say the real reason why EDL are made to look the bad guys, and prevented from demonstrating where possible. It’s because they’re predominantly white. This country’s establishment is full of anti white racists. That is the truth of the matter.

    1. lionsingh

      Lets be honest.

      AS YOU MENTION It’s because they’re predominantly white and is full of anti white racists

      Sorry you believe that. It is completely wrong. I am EDL and the last time I looked at my skin it was still golden Brown. I do know of a lot of white Islamacists ;-). When I was last on an EDL march…I didnt have to “Tippex” my skin colour !!!! ..amazingly enough..never met a anti-brown racist either on the march ????..perhaps it was because you were not there ???

      The as you mention “That is the truth of the matter” is wrong … and an insult to many EDL.

      You bring colour into it..so it is completely unfair that Brits are discriminated against in the name of political correctness. Will tell Guramit to take tippex with him to the nest demo..that the bastard politicos have banned us from… sure you tell Tommy that.

      Islam is colour blind…NOT blind to condemn Gays nor to deal with Women with a big mouth, nor to demand Sharia, nor accept Slavery as Allahs will, nor to believe the world should be in his perverted way.

      All you have to say is “white”… That is NOT THE REALITY OF THE THREAT !!!!

      Do you believe it is a movement against whites ?

      I accept that many white working class people have been discriminated against because of PC…but whos fault.

      If you think this is a question of white..brown..black… then you are in the wrong place.

      Lets be honest…

      Tower Hamlets would have had SO much support…The Government are scared because we dont see colour…WE SEE A THREAT to our UK.

      They cant stop us…we will just get stronger.

  4. 130770CK5

    There is nothing that I can say that has not already been said. I hope that those of you fit enough will attend on 3rd Sept and show the lefty idiots that we are going to stand for what we believe in, in out own country.

    The police DO KNOW the truth regarding who is responsible for disorder and violence, please EDL people, be sure to stick to the rules and be safe!

  5. john reflex

    EDL is a British minority organization of natives who are constantly targeted by Police and Government memebrs for their cultural believes. Toward EDL members there is been the following discrimintaion covered by Human Rights Laws:
    1) (EDL) members are constantly targeted because their national or ethnic origin (predominatly white, but also other)
    2) because of the language (English)
    3) there is not been equal protection by the law
    4) restrictions to partecipate to public life
    5) restrictions in freedom of associations
    6) right of minority (EDL) to exist
    7) right (of EDL members) to enjoy and develop their own culture and language (the English)
    8) right to establish and maintain their own schools and other training and educational institutions.

    I am just curious to see how many “moderate” islamists have organized any anti-terrorism manifestations across the world in the memory of the 9/11 victims….. Or how many “moderate” islamists have you seen organizing a memorial in the name of the London 7/7/2005 islamic terror attack?

    Because the fact is that a “moderate” islamist will get angry if you attack islam and they will feel insulted, but you never see them showing publicly they ARE different from radicalists..

    Of course of course, i am islamophobic.. I am sick.. You don’t talk to people like me, I am somebody to avoid.. But I know what I stand for and I say it, because for me “silence means consent”.

    Dear “moderate” islamist, so far this month islamists have perpetated 143 terror attacks killing 600 people in the name of allah across the world, where is your response? 600 PERSONS KILLED. Do you not feel your allah is insulted by this people or do you feel that what they are doing is actually what the book says so they are rigth to kill infedels and unbelivers? Are you going to say something about it and show to us infedels that you good, or you prefer not to say anything and proove us that “silence means consent”? That’ s what you doing so far.
    We want answers on this matter from you now you know, and this is not an option, you MUST answer if we going to live in peace.

    Is this a “moderate” islamist?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeCdIfkSbzE&feature=related

  6. Wasp

    I think that the government, police and various local authorities fall over themselves to try and ban EDL marches is for a number of reasons. Firstly, the EDL, by marching and protesting are highlighting to the public at large just what a potential danger Islam is to our country. And that would never do. By emphasising extremist Islam and making the people aware of what is happening to our country, they are also indirectly advertising the failures of successive governments who first of all caused they problem with uncontrolled immigation and secondly, fail to deal with the problems they caused. The political elites will never, ever admit their mistakes and failures over several decades.

    Secondly, it is far easier to ban the EDL from protesting because they are the easy target. The ‘authorities’ are paralysed with the fear of being labelled racist or Islamaphobic by taking similar action against those who are, in reality, inciting religious and racial hatred and even inciting murder. So fearful are the police and other authorities that they have actually given them police protection to demonstrate their vile hatred, which would see EDL members given long jail sentences if they did the same.

    Our rulers are playing a very dangerous game with their continual appeasement. It was their cowardice that has allowed Muslims to groom possibly thousands of young girls for prostitution over many years, with impunity. Even though they knew what was happening, they chose to remain silent or to demonise anyone who raised the issue as racist, As happened to Anne Cryer, MP for Keighley, Yorks, when she raised the issue in the House of Commons in the early 2000s.

    Thirdly, the government thinks that by banning or denigrating and insulting organisations such as the EDL they can put their heads back up their arses and ignore the problems that are happening all over the country. It is far easier to shoot the messenger than to face up to uncomfortable facts and take action to deal with the problems.

    Fourthly,the ‘Establishment’ are afraid of the EDL and BNP or any other organisation that is likely to gain massive public support because they fear that once the people become fully aware of their incompetence and cowardice, their own survival and that of their cosy establishment could come under serious threat. Which is why their dirty tricks departments work overtime to squash any signs of popular uprising. The more popular support an organisation, such as the EDL, is perceived to gain, the dirtier the tricks against them become.

  7. infidelis

    The government hates any organisation which show it to be lying and deceiving,,all politicians shy away from being totally honest and the English Defence League shows this government that it will not accept double standards,, in fact,,we are the true face of the British people in all their diversity and again the government does not like this for it shows their hypocrisy,, we have to continue to act as we are doing,,gaining hearts and minds and growing in numbers and strength.

  8. tom

    this makes me sick talk about double standards lets stand together and be strong this goverment is way out of line like the rest them they have banned the march but we can still stand strong protest our case to this perthic and weak goverment we have a right its time the country opened there eyes and really saw what is goin on its the fight of our lives, stand strong fellow members it just pissessss me offf what this great country has come to…..

  9. Garf_d

    If this government could govern it would be something, but they cant and they have no legitimate basis for not allowing our right to freely peacefully protest.

    IF THEY BAN US NOW WHAT WILL THEY TRY NEXT!

  10. chris squire

    i think the government is just afraid of the strenth and popularity of the EDL and have dug themselves into a giant hole by allowing so many years of unchecked immigration they just don’t know how to get out of it and they fear the EDL may be the answer ,lets face the uk in fact all of europe has took a long time to wake up to the threat of radical islam but now they have ,it’s here and nobody really knows what to do about it certainly not in a politicly correct way anyway.whats the answer THE EDL is the start of the solution it will take alot more support and awareness but the sighns of fear from the government show the we are on the right path .and they should be made aware that banning marches and by that oppressing freedom of speach and the right to protest will only strenthen the resolve of a very angry public

  11. parrie

    I have just joined EDL, Why is the Country to blind to this takeover of our way of life and what is ours. We used to be proud of this country now we have no sense of belonging whom ever asked us if we minded being takenover. No votes have been ever allowed on that! The people in charge of the country can bail out when ever they want because any country will take them because of their money and ability to pay for their families. Leaving the majority of us here to face this horror that is about to happen, right or wrong I believe this unless we stand up and be counted now. I admire all you have done this. Thank you fro your bravery!! :-)

  12. menokuffar

    The ban is disappointing but sadly predictable.
    I beleive that someone once said that the only thing that history teaches us is that history teaches us nothing.
    Britain is in exactly the same situation with Islam as it was in the 1930s with Hitler and is pursuing the same suicidal policy of appeasement.
    I think that each government in recent years has just tried to keep a lid on things, hoping that when the shit inevitably hits the fan, their tenure of office will be over and it will all be another government/cabinet’s problem.

  13. craig

    u hit the nail on the head! i agree i think the problem is because most of us are white, we get classed as national front, hooligans, and what ever else people like to call us? i was talking to some one the other day and they was saying that the edl was just as bad as these islamic bomb huggers i nearly lost it lol. we also get bad press they turn everything we do into something so bad and we only want to fight and get into trouble BOLLOX we jst say and protest what so many people think and feel!! if everyone had the balls to do what we do and stand up to these people it wouldnt take long to rid em out of our country for good!!! the goverment once said we will get rid of these radicals who want to preach hate against us, and fight the war on terror so y can they say that??????? but we cant????????????? edl for goverment lol edl forever,stand up and be strong, be heard, and keep PROTESTING. stay safe to all edl members!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  14. smith

    Brilliant work again on this activity page!! Armageddon Is coming! Muslims at the front but who will be following up their rear guard? Why is nato attacking Irag, Afghanistan, Libya and Iran next etc something is being planned on a global scale?! GLOBAL CONTROL
    THE EDL NEED TO SAY NO TO THE EUROPEAN UNION! Every person needs to say no to the EU and all involvement. BRITAIN’s POWERS ARE BEING ‘sub vented’ TO BRUSSELS! Just like the ‘sub primed’ market destroyed the financial systems! THIS HAS TO STOP! BRITAIN USED TO BE CALLED ‘TREASURE ISLAND’ TO THE REST OF THE EUROPEAN UNION & MARKET BECAUSE BRITAIN PAID THROUGH THE NOSE FOR GOODS AND COMMERCIAL PRODUCTS. THE OTHER EU COUNTRIES DIDN’T WE WERE BEING BLED DRY. WHEN BRITAIN HAD FINALLY PAID OFF ITS DEBT TO AMERICA FOR THE 2ND WORLD WAR. WHAT DID MR TONY BLAIR DO? HE SPENT! SPENT! SPENT! SPENT! ALL THE MONEY WE WERE AHEAD BY, AT THAT TIME, AND ALLOWED THE GOVERNMENT FINANCIAL CONTROLS TO RUN COMPLETELY WILD. WHY? SO WE CONSCIOUSLY AND DELIBERATELY BECAME BANKRUPT BRITAIN AS HIS BACKERS PLANNED. SUCKED DRY AND INCLUDING THE COST OF THE WARS BLAIR STARTED. THE PEOPLE SAID THEY DID NOT WANT THESE WARS AND BLAIR OVER RULED EVERYONE & EVERYTHING. HE IS VERY DANGEROUS. WHY IS BLAIR NOT UNDER ARREST FOR THE MURDER COMMITTED IN HIS NAME IN IRAQ WHEN CLEARLY HE KNEW THERE WERE NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AS ONE OF HIS OWN MINISTERS HAD TOLD HIM AND WHO HAD BEEN SIDE LINED? IT SEEMS LEGISLATIVE REALITY AND GOVERNMENT LEGALITY DOES NOT GO HAND IN HAND AND CIRCUMVENTS DEMOCRACY TO ITS OWN MALICIOUS ENDS.
    THIS COUNTRY NEEDS GOVERNMENT POLICY KEPT IN BRITAIN, MADE BY BRITAIN FOR BRITAIN AND IT’S BRITISH PEOPLE!
    NO NO NO CAMERON!!!!!!!!!!!! I SAW HOW YOU BACK TRACKED ONCE THE ’DARTH VADER’ BLAIR PIPED IN WITH HIS LITTLE INTEVIEW.
    BLAIR YOU WERE & ARE THE JUDAS TO THIS COUNTRY! WHO SET UP THE FINANCIAL COLLAPSE! YOU ERODED THE TIME HONOURED TRADITIONS & BELIEF SYSTEMS. MANY TIMES OVER YOU SOLD US OUT & BROKE DOWN THE STRUCTURAL HISTORICAL INTEGRITY OF THIS NATION TO MAKE IT WEAK AND SUCCUMB TO THE VAGARIES OF BRUSSELS & THE LIKES OF THE POWER PUSHING CIVIL SERVANTS OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK. THAT’S WHY YOU PASSED OUT FROM GOVERNMENT TO CONTINUE YOUR DIVISIVE ROLE IN GIVING BRITAINS AUTHORITY AWAY ON EVERY LEVEL. VERY CLEVER! IF YOU WEREN’T DEFEATED (YOU WALKED OUT) IN ELECTIONS THEN SMUGLY THE IMPRESSION YOU LEAVE IS YOU DIDN’T LOSE POWER. MERELY STEPPING ACROSS STONES OVER TO THE EUROPEAN UNION. FROM THERE YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH THE TREACHEROUS WORK YOU HAVE BEGUN! WHEN YOU HAVE GONE AGAINST WHAT IS THE RELIGIOUS TRADITION OF BRITAIN THEN YOU ARE AGAINST THE VERY HEART OF WHAT BRITAIN HAS STOOD FOR CENTURY AFTER CENTURY! YOU CLEARLY ARE THE NEMESIS OF ALL THAT STANDS FOR GOOD, HONOUR & GOD.
    TAKE BRITAIN OUT OF THE EUROPEAN UNION!!!! DO IT NOW! CAMERON & CLEGGY, LIKE BLAIR PUPPETS TO THE FINANCIAL MASTERS WHO ARE COLLAPSING THE LIFE BLOOD OF SOCIETY TO BRING BACK THE WOUNDED ANTICHRIST THAT IS ISLAM. IT WOULD SEEM GODS PUNNISHMENT IS BEING SET IN PLACE FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT ANY MORE BELEIVE IN THE TRUE GOD, CHRIST. CHRIST WHO HAS PROTECTED & SAVED THIS BRITAIN AGAIN & AGAIN WHILE WE KEPT FAITH IN HIS WILL. IT IS SAD AND IT IS COMING QUICKER YEAR BY YEAR!

  15. Sergey S.

    from http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/147264
    .
    Laura Booth, sister-in-law of Quartet envoy Tony Blair … joined an anti-Israel rally in London Trafalgar’s Square. During last week’s demonstration, Booth went on another rant against Israel. “We say here today to you, Israel, we see your crimes and we loathe your crimes. And to us your nation does not exist, because it is a criminal injustice against humanity. We want to see Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt go to the borders and stop this now. Liberate Al Quds! March to Al Quds!”
    .
    The article shows photo of London rally for ‘peace’, with placards saying “Israel you days are numbered” and “For world peace Israel must be destroyed”. The Trafalgar Square rallies against Israel have featured Hizbullah flags.
    .
    And my point is: even if you don’t believe in God, you should agree that things are happening as if there is God, and He is arranging events according to “Eye for an eye” principle: if Britain supports “liberation” of Jerusalem and Israel from Jews, God will arrange for “liberation” of London and England from Britons. I do support “London and England for Britons” (I do not live in England), so please continue your struggle, but don’t disregard spiritual side.

  16. ralph tyler

    The EDL has to be very careful not to give silly ammunition to those who want to discredit the organisation. For instance, some of the comments passed to and fro on the regional pages smack of just mindless racism. It is difficult to control a rapidly growing organisation, but the leadership MUST put into place systems that monitor posts. It is the easieast thing in the world for a reporter, for instance, to gain membership and then peruse all of the traffic on the site. Once a group is shown to harbour racists and idiots then all credibility is lost.

  17. e_s_s

    The national leadership has a dilemma. For many years, leadership has been going along, enjoying the benefits of the positions and, really, not doing much of anything when it comes to behavior with potentially serious results. In several ways, the consequences of complacency and inaction are being felt.
    Now, leadership has a problem. If the leaders admit to the existence of serious problems in the UK, there is a some chance the voters will turn them out. Rather than to face the facts, pointing the finger at people other than themselves allows the benefits of office to continue to flow into their accounts. I don’t know any other way of saying it.
    Once leadership admits the problem, the solution is not going to be easy, at all. Still, the administrative solutions will be more comfortable and more humane than the actions that will likely result from continued denial.

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