Police Set Conditions for the Tower Hamlets Demonstration

Perhaps we should just be happy that we’re allowed to demonstrate at all!

First, the Home Secretary prevented us from marching, and now we find that the EDL demonstration in Tower Hamlets this Saturday will face further complications.

Until very recently, we had agreed with the police that the muster point before the demonstration would be Hainault Underground Station. We would then have taken the tube to Liverpool Street Station, and from there we would have walked to Tower Hamlets.

What no one thought to consider was the possibility that the RMT (The National Union of Rail, Maritime and Transport Workers) might get wind of our plans and threaten to close stations by calling on their members to go on strike.

We’re not sure that having to transport people to a demonstration is really a legitimate reason for industrial action, but the threat has been enough for the police to cave in to the pressure and abandon the previous plan. As a result, we’ve been left to make our own arrangements as far as the muster point is concerned.

Location details are as follows:

This applies to everyone, using any method of transport.

Please muster at the following public houses:

Flying Scotsman
4 Caledonian Road
London
N1 9DU

The Dun A Ri
19 Caledonian Road
London
N1 9DX

The Driver
2-4 Wharfdale Road
N1 9RY

At 2pm we will make our way to the demo point so if you are not at one of the above you won’t be going.

Please do make sure you arrive in plenty of time, as we do not know what restrictions may be placed on travel shortly before the demonstration.

Please can we also ask that you bring your own refreshments, as although there are a few pubs in the area, it’s going to be difficult enough keeping everyone together.

Once we have gathered at the muster point we will then be escorted by police, in groups of 200-300, to Tower Hamlets and the site of the static demonstration.

However, we have today received a warning from the police that until we reach the demonstration site, we will not be allowed to raise our flags or banners, and that anyone doing so will be removed from the area.

It should go without saying that this is absolutely ridiculous, and we’re not certain that the police will actually enforce this rule on the day. As far as we understand it, the decision was made a senior officer in the Met, and is not well-supported by the police, who believe that it could turn the demonstration into a logistical nightmare.

But, until you hear otherwise from either a police officer or an EDL steward, please abide by these instructions. We are certainly not happy about this clear violation of our right to peaceful protest, but we would rather everyone reached the demonstration site than saw people ejected early on.

We understand that the police have received intelligence that there are small number of people in the Muslim community in Tower Hamlets who are already trying to incite violence, but surely the police effort should be focused on deterring would-be criminals rather than on restricting our right to protest?

Although the UAF have also been prevented from holding a march, they are thought to be holding a counter-demonstration nearby. From previous demonstrations we expect them to try and aggravate and provoke EDL supporters. Please can we remind everyone that any trouble would detract from the important reasons why we will be in Tower Hamlets.

There have been numerous newspaper articles recently that have been highly critical of the UAF – highlighting that their arrest figures are often far higher than ours, and rubbishing their claims that they are fighting ‘fascism’. This one deserves a special mention. If people are ever going to stop believing some of the baseless accusations spread by the UAF, then this support is crucial. Let’s not do anything to jeopardise it.

This demonstration was always going to come with conditions, but we are disappointed that senior figures in the Met seem to be more interested in playing politics than they are ensuring that the demonstration is a well-organised, peaceful affair.

We are also disappointed that the RMT is apparently so opposed to protests against the spread of radical Islam that it would instruct its members to strike in order to sabotage our plans. Despite this, we are looking forward to a successful demonstration.

But we wish to make it very clear now: if we are prevented from flying flags and displaying banners then we will return to Tower Hamlets on 22nd October.

We will have our demonstration, and our voices will be heard.

No surrender.

 

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13 Comments on Police Set Conditions for the Tower Hamlets Demonstration

  1. I’m a new member so I’ll apollogise first, but WTF?? and they call us facists!

    Myself and my wife will be there for our first march and we will stick to these guild lines just to show these cnuts just who the thugs are, whilst our politcal point is made clear! NFS!

  2. Good to note that in the article mentioned by pyrus ” In finding itself banned, Unite Against Fascism has fallen victim to its own brand of boneheaded illiberalism ” http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/brendanoneill2/100102396/in-finding-itself-banned-unite-against-fascism-has-fallen-victim-to-its-own-brand-of-boneheaded-illiberalism/

    many of the comments are fully supportive of the EDL. Perceptions are changing and more people are listening to what wehave so say, not the tripe from the UAF and Islamacists. What UAF is effectively saying is: “We should have the freedom to march, but they shouldn’t.”

    How could the Police remove a thousand banners ? Whatever happened to freedom when you could be arrested for just waving the national flag/s walking peacefully through the streets of the capital? Utter disgrace.

    Glad pyrus and the EDL has made it clear…… But we wish to make it very clear now: if we are prevented from flying flags and displaying banners then we will return to Tower Hamlets on 22nd October.

    We will have our demonstration, and our voices will be heard.

    Be Safe,Be good and be Vocal….Let the UK hear our voices.

  3. How many supporters are we expecting or are we keeping this quiet NS

  4. These restrictions are a joke! we should be allowed to raise our flags with pride, is this not the point of a march?

  5. A leader of the English Defence League who was described as a “political prisoner” after being jailed for violence at a march had already been placed on the sex offenders register for downloading indecent images of children, The Times can reveal.

    The far-right group launched a campaign to free Richard Price, co-ordinator of the West Midlands division of the EDL, after he was jailed last month for violent behaviour. But Price, 41, had been convicted in June 2010 of making four indecent images of children, and possessing cocaine and crack cocaine.

    That conviction followed an earlier arrest in 2009 for public order offences believed to have been connected with EDL marches. Police were understood to have seized and analysed his computer, leading to the discovery of sexual images of children that he had downloaded. His home was also searched and the drugs were found.

    Price admitted four counts of making indecent images of children and two charges of possessing cocaine when he appeared at Birmingham Crown Court. He was banned from owning a computer for a year, given a three-year community supervision order and ordered to sign on to the sex offenders register for five years.

    Price, from Quinton, Birmingham, and Collum Keyes, 23, also from Birmingham, were among 12 people arrested when they surged through police lines during a protest in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, in May 2010.

    When that case came to court in December, Price admitted using threatening behaviour. He was jailed for three months and given a ten-year Criminal Anti-Social Behaviour Order banning him from attending marches outside Birmingham. Keyes, who admitted disorderly conduct, was fined £150.

    When Price was jailed, EDL members launched a campaign urging supporters to write to the Prime Minister and MPs to try to “win justice for Richard Price, EDL”.

    The Aston Villa supporter, who has also been linked to football hooliganism, was even likened by his supporters to a modern-day John Bunyan, the Puritan Christian preacher and author of Pilgrim’s Progress who was jailed for continuing his sermons without the permission of the established Church in the 1600s.

    But today’s revelation that one of the EDL’s leading members has been convicted of sex offences will come as a huge embarrassment to a group that has struggled to shrug off its reputation as a new version of the National Front.

    In recent months, particularly following the political demise of the British National Party, the EDL has begun to attract more support. Its leader, who had previously used the alias Tommy Robinson, was traced by The Times and gave his first interview using his real name.

    Stephen Lennon has vehemently denied that the group he started in Luton, Bedfordshire, is racist, saying that it has even set up a gay and lesbian division and given a prominent role to a Sikh supporter opposed to Islamic extremists.

    Supporters of the EDL had claimed that Price became a political prisoner after he, along with Keyes, was banned from organising, controlling or travelling to any open-air protest outside Birmingham for ten years.

    It was the first time a Criminal Anti-Social Behaviour Order, sought by Thames Valley Police in conjunction with the National Domestic Extremism Unit, had been issued to a demonstrator connected to the EDL.

    Last month, a database of EDL supporters was published on the internet. Hackers had attacked the group’s database of those who had made donations to the EDL and people who had bought clothing from its merchandise wing.

    Source: The Times (paywalled)

  6. Hi all
    Just a quick question are we walking from these muster points to the demo? Curious because it looks a long walk to TH from there ie 4hrs30mins on google maps

  7. Good Luck to you all. Have a great day, wish I could be there. G O O D L U C K!!!

  8. An excelent day in TH yesterday. No sign of the united actual fascists. We arrived we marched to the demo. Listened to speeches and marched south to Tower Bridge. Met lotts of decent people. see ya next time :-)

  9. Muslims criticise Scotland Yard for telling them to engage with EDL
    Metropolitan police say English Defence League is ‘not extreme’, but sends 3,000 officers to planned demonstration

    From the police…. an email obtained by the Guardian, Adrian Tudway, National Co-ordinator for Domestic Extremism, said he formed the view the EDL were not extreme after reading their website.

    Tudway wrote: “In terms of the position with EDL, the original stance stands, they are not extreme right wing as a group, indeed if you look at their published material on their web-site, they are actively moving away from the right and violence with their mission statement etc.

    Now the Muzzies are complaining !!!!!….because even the Coppers know us to be anti-extreme…anti nazi anti Islamism….

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/sep/02/english-defence-league-muslims-police

    FACTS !!!!

  10. Muslims criticise Scotland Yard for telling them to engage with EDL
    Metropolitan police say English Defence League is ‘not extreme’, but sends 3,000 officers to planned demonstration

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/sep/02/english-defence-league-muslims-police

  11. It is great when scum are revealed. They exist in every faction of life, pedophiles in Education, Police, Government, and those people when caught need to be rooted out and yes, it is sad for those who have trusted them. But move on from this quickly.

    Keep on gathering, keep on marching, keep on trying to be peaceful and calm, keep on encouraging more people to march, you are the one last hope

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